Unfortunately Women Not having Sex is only PART of the solution. U have to think about the Primal Desire of BOTH sexes. It's Not just the Men seeking Women like in the Caveman days to Current times.. Once a Young girl turns N2 Pubic age, she too is Seeking out this same Primal Desire (But they R to young to Understand it's reasoning) which is what guys/men are doing. I'm 🤔 that there is far MORE Males seeking out to Tame their Desires than women by far. But it's still out there for Both Sexes. I 100% Firmly Believe a Woman has the Rights to her OWN Body, NO Man should EVER make that decision. Men have Ruled Women since Caveman days, thru Religion & Politics. WHY did we girls have to Freeze our Assets off walking several miles to school in "Dresses" in the COLD, RAIN & SNOW... All Because We were to Scared of the Men Running this world to speak up against it. Women HAVE come a Long Ways over the years but in some ways NOT Soon Enough. What the women in our families went thru under the 👎 of Men & their Politics Saddens me.
Anyways getting off the subject I went, Thanks for the Insight for this Unsettled Current Politics of Roe 🙄
I watched the CSPAN calls yesterday and am finding one part of the issue missing much attention, and it is critical.
I was a volunteer receptionist when the first planned parenthood clinic was established in Seattle. (I think it might have been the first one in the country.)
So, I was doing intake forms with the women who came.
ALWAYS their concerns about having or aborting a baby were focused on what kind of life the baby would have. Would s/he be brought into a family with an abuser? Did the girl/woman fear she’d abuse or not love enough? (Often because the child was a product of a rape.) Was it a situation without adequate money? Was she mentally ill or physically ill in a way that would not give the child a fair life? Was the woman or girl too young…or too old to provide adequate care? Were there other children who would be deprived of their mother’s time or service in a way that could make the child unwelcome by its siblings? What if the child needed special care or medical treatments? Would a child, or yet another child, push the woman to the edge of her ability to cope as a mother or money earner? Was the child the product of a mixed coupling that could bring painful results to the child from the family or extended family?
Some of those questions could be put into perspective and some were solved by the option of adoption.
Even women who needed an abortion for their own physical health weighed the question in terms of the best thing for the baby. Many women do choose to endanger their lives in order to give the baby life.
Many girls and women ended up feeling wonderfully able to have the baby and give it a good life.
The ones who chose abortion often said afterwards they felt they’d saved the baby from a fate worse than death.
Certainly, women feel the baby inside them whether they want to or not. Certainly, the examples I saw all represented some level or kind of maternal concern.
This is the perspective I’ve heard very little of, yet it was what I saw as a consistent aspect in the decisions.
Ariele
PS Yes, the whole direction of things is even more clearly the American Taliban firmly establishing possession of everything.
Yes, Everything U said is True. I had seeked Abortion at 17, thru PP due to having Sex with my boyfriend because I didn't want to lose him if I didn't "give in".. 😟 It wasn't allowed because I could have this Child & give it up at birth, which I did. Even though my mom was in agreement to abort I couldn't find a doctor to do it. I lost my Boyfriend & I gave my son up & feeling totally Empty.. ALL what you said was Constantly on my mind. I Worried & Hoped he was being raised by caring parents. When he was 39 we Finally met thru his girlfriend, now wife & contacting us via Facebook when it first started up. He was given All my cards I gave him (thru adoption Cath Children's Society) & it was thru this she was able to contact me. All my Dreams (& Fear) of Meeting Him came true, he WAS raised by caring parents along with 2 other children, 1 adopted also & 1 of the parents. He had his OWN Fears he had to conquer as well, but Over these 10+ years he has been a Big part of our lives along with his 2 - 1/2 brothers our son's. Thru our numerous Emails we finally met on neutral ground. He's a Beautiful person & I'm so Proud of the kind of person he is. I'm truly glad I had him, but it was a "Very Stressful life" without him. 4 years ago He was able to meet his birth dad (being his only child) & keeps in contact with him. One NEVER knows what a Life will Be whether you Abort or Deliver 💕
My Mom lost two children before she had my older brother and me. In between the death of her two babies and the birth of my older brother, my parents adopted a little boy because they thought my mom couldn't have more children. The adopted child was always their favorite child and they made no secret of this. He was also the only child to give them a grandson which they treasured immensely. So, adopted children sometimes hit the jackpot! You just never know. I am thrilled for you that you were able to connect with your child and can now have a relationship with him. A happy ending!
Thank You. It could have gone far different, but I kept telling myself that Both me & his daddy &(all the parents) were All Good People, just too young & with guys hormones running wild @ 17. I want to believe because of our Caring Loving Genes was why he turned out 2B a Awesome, Driven, Independent, Caring & Loving guy pulled Between 2 world's. I'm totally Loving all of my son's wives. I'm am So Lucky & I Don't Take any of them for granted. My son is Totally Accepted in my family 110% plus. Which could have gone array with my husband. But because HE Knew of my pregnancy B4 I even told him (boys talk 🙄 even being from separate schools) he was prepared for me seeking him out at 1 point. It all turned out, however I have given up asking to meet his adopted parents to Thank them. I gave his adopted mom a Beautiful small Family Tree necklace & hand made card (matching the earrings I kept) 8+ yrs ago, but other then the Acknowledgement she received it, I had to put my feelings aside that she wasn't interested in a meet up. I have my 1st born in my life & I shall Always B Secure with that, even tho my son has chosen to have NO children I'm at peace with that. 💕
Yes, being Foster Parents we were able to adopted the 1st infant (of many) we received. Coming at 9 mos & adopted at 2.5 yrs. She became a challenge starting@ 3 yrs, not bad just had Grandma & Grandpa wrapped around her finger & was quite spoiled by them. Our older boys just delt with it but her Attitude was "U Owe Me" most of the time, puberty was a bear. She finally ran at 15 but came bk at 18 to finish high school then was booted 8 mos later for being mouthy to me after dad Warned her on her Behavior. She's been gone ever since being now 42 years old. She deals with mental illness to a point but as long as she stays on medication she's okay & she's a hard worker & pleasant to be around, But NEVER takes Blame fore Anything that Happens to her/she causes. She's been married twice has 2 children who live with their dad in Germany she hasn't seen them only a handful of times since they were tiny. We hear from her off n on, actually she just called yesterday leaving a Mssg chking up on us, she lost her Cell yet AGAIN 🤨. Haven't heard from her since about March 15th, she was using someone else's phone to call.. we told her she could write a book on all her experiences she's had since she left here. Many police situations & more stories than time..
It's interesting that everyone we personally know who have adopted children have all ran the same gamut as we have. It's interesting and good to hear a positive outcome to an adoption, however it probably wasn't a joyous home for you and your brother. 💕
Krysta, Great Rant 👏😁
Unfortunately Women Not having Sex is only PART of the solution. U have to think about the Primal Desire of BOTH sexes. It's Not just the Men seeking Women like in the Caveman days to Current times.. Once a Young girl turns N2 Pubic age, she too is Seeking out this same Primal Desire (But they R to young to Understand it's reasoning) which is what guys/men are doing. I'm 🤔 that there is far MORE Males seeking out to Tame their Desires than women by far. But it's still out there for Both Sexes. I 100% Firmly Believe a Woman has the Rights to her OWN Body, NO Man should EVER make that decision. Men have Ruled Women since Caveman days, thru Religion & Politics. WHY did we girls have to Freeze our Assets off walking several miles to school in "Dresses" in the COLD, RAIN & SNOW... All Because We were to Scared of the Men Running this world to speak up against it. Women HAVE come a Long Ways over the years but in some ways NOT Soon Enough. What the women in our families went thru under the 👎 of Men & their Politics Saddens me.
Anyways getting off the subject I went, Thanks for the Insight for this Unsettled Current Politics of Roe 🙄
I watched the CSPAN calls yesterday and am finding one part of the issue missing much attention, and it is critical.
I was a volunteer receptionist when the first planned parenthood clinic was established in Seattle. (I think it might have been the first one in the country.)
So, I was doing intake forms with the women who came.
ALWAYS their concerns about having or aborting a baby were focused on what kind of life the baby would have. Would s/he be brought into a family with an abuser? Did the girl/woman fear she’d abuse or not love enough? (Often because the child was a product of a rape.) Was it a situation without adequate money? Was she mentally ill or physically ill in a way that would not give the child a fair life? Was the woman or girl too young…or too old to provide adequate care? Were there other children who would be deprived of their mother’s time or service in a way that could make the child unwelcome by its siblings? What if the child needed special care or medical treatments? Would a child, or yet another child, push the woman to the edge of her ability to cope as a mother or money earner? Was the child the product of a mixed coupling that could bring painful results to the child from the family or extended family?
Some of those questions could be put into perspective and some were solved by the option of adoption.
Even women who needed an abortion for their own physical health weighed the question in terms of the best thing for the baby. Many women do choose to endanger their lives in order to give the baby life.
Many girls and women ended up feeling wonderfully able to have the baby and give it a good life.
The ones who chose abortion often said afterwards they felt they’d saved the baby from a fate worse than death.
Certainly, women feel the baby inside them whether they want to or not. Certainly, the examples I saw all represented some level or kind of maternal concern.
This is the perspective I’ve heard very little of, yet it was what I saw as a consistent aspect in the decisions.
Ariele
PS Yes, the whole direction of things is even more clearly the American Taliban firmly establishing possession of everything.
Yes, a point so easily missed. Most women do concern themselves with the life of the unborn...whether or not the child would have a good life.
Yes, Everything U said is True. I had seeked Abortion at 17, thru PP due to having Sex with my boyfriend because I didn't want to lose him if I didn't "give in".. 😟 It wasn't allowed because I could have this Child & give it up at birth, which I did. Even though my mom was in agreement to abort I couldn't find a doctor to do it. I lost my Boyfriend & I gave my son up & feeling totally Empty.. ALL what you said was Constantly on my mind. I Worried & Hoped he was being raised by caring parents. When he was 39 we Finally met thru his girlfriend, now wife & contacting us via Facebook when it first started up. He was given All my cards I gave him (thru adoption Cath Children's Society) & it was thru this she was able to contact me. All my Dreams (& Fear) of Meeting Him came true, he WAS raised by caring parents along with 2 other children, 1 adopted also & 1 of the parents. He had his OWN Fears he had to conquer as well, but Over these 10+ years he has been a Big part of our lives along with his 2 - 1/2 brothers our son's. Thru our numerous Emails we finally met on neutral ground. He's a Beautiful person & I'm so Proud of the kind of person he is. I'm truly glad I had him, but it was a "Very Stressful life" without him. 4 years ago He was able to meet his birth dad (being his only child) & keeps in contact with him. One NEVER knows what a Life will Be whether you Abort or Deliver 💕
My Mom lost two children before she had my older brother and me. In between the death of her two babies and the birth of my older brother, my parents adopted a little boy because they thought my mom couldn't have more children. The adopted child was always their favorite child and they made no secret of this. He was also the only child to give them a grandson which they treasured immensely. So, adopted children sometimes hit the jackpot! You just never know. I am thrilled for you that you were able to connect with your child and can now have a relationship with him. A happy ending!
Nada...that's such a lovely outcome with your son. Congratulations on that. Ariele
Thank You. It could have gone far different, but I kept telling myself that Both me & his daddy &(all the parents) were All Good People, just too young & with guys hormones running wild @ 17. I want to believe because of our Caring Loving Genes was why he turned out 2B a Awesome, Driven, Independent, Caring & Loving guy pulled Between 2 world's. I'm totally Loving all of my son's wives. I'm am So Lucky & I Don't Take any of them for granted. My son is Totally Accepted in my family 110% plus. Which could have gone array with my husband. But because HE Knew of my pregnancy B4 I even told him (boys talk 🙄 even being from separate schools) he was prepared for me seeking him out at 1 point. It all turned out, however I have given up asking to meet his adopted parents to Thank them. I gave his adopted mom a Beautiful small Family Tree necklace & hand made card (matching the earrings I kept) 8+ yrs ago, but other then the Acknowledgement she received it, I had to put my feelings aside that she wasn't interested in a meet up. I have my 1st born in my life & I shall Always B Secure with that, even tho my son has chosen to have NO children I'm at peace with that. 💕
I'm sharing too! Thanks for helping me express.
Thank you. I am sharing!
Yes, being Foster Parents we were able to adopted the 1st infant (of many) we received. Coming at 9 mos & adopted at 2.5 yrs. She became a challenge starting@ 3 yrs, not bad just had Grandma & Grandpa wrapped around her finger & was quite spoiled by them. Our older boys just delt with it but her Attitude was "U Owe Me" most of the time, puberty was a bear. She finally ran at 15 but came bk at 18 to finish high school then was booted 8 mos later for being mouthy to me after dad Warned her on her Behavior. She's been gone ever since being now 42 years old. She deals with mental illness to a point but as long as she stays on medication she's okay & she's a hard worker & pleasant to be around, But NEVER takes Blame fore Anything that Happens to her/she causes. She's been married twice has 2 children who live with their dad in Germany she hasn't seen them only a handful of times since they were tiny. We hear from her off n on, actually she just called yesterday leaving a Mssg chking up on us, she lost her Cell yet AGAIN 🤨. Haven't heard from her since about March 15th, she was using someone else's phone to call.. we told her she could write a book on all her experiences she's had since she left here. Many police situations & more stories than time..
It's interesting that everyone we personally know who have adopted children have all ran the same gamut as we have. It's interesting and good to hear a positive outcome to an adoption, however it probably wasn't a joyous home for you and your brother. 💕